DwarfCast 7 - Dimension Jump Commentary

Very good.

“It’s a good job we didn’t show him walking”

Brilliant.

Well, the original intention was to release a DwarfCast every two weeks, giving us 2 years worth of commentaries and plenty of material from elsewhere. I took longer than normal to publish this one cos I’m a fool. Casts are the sort of thing that people tend to download and listen to whenever they have time, so putting one out every week could get on people’s wicks quite quickly.

Having said that, to keep the experience a little more interactive, everyone feel free to list what episodes they’d most like to see done next and we’ll see what we can do!

Cappsy, I’d love to hear the previously mentioned The Last Day commentary, but you must, must please do a commentary to a VII episode, possibly Beyond A Joke. Come to think of it, Meltdown would also be pretty good! I also loved the ‘Krytie TV’ commentary (For some reason, I’m a sick individual who loves hearing blazing controversy), so Beyond A Joke would presumably be in a similar vein.

Note to self: use paragraphs more

Well, we have Meltdown ready recorded, so I’ll stick that up next. Just for you.

We’ll definitely be doing some VII, soon, and there’s a weekend coming up where pretty much the entire G&T team will be in one house, so there’ll be plenty coming out of that.

As for The Last Day… I fear I’ve bigged it up more than it deserves. From what I remember, it’s faintly unremarkable until the last 5 minutes, anyway!

> Well, we have Meltdown ready recorded, so I’ll stick that up next. Just for you.

Aw, thank you!

> We’ll definitely be doing some VII, soon, and there’s a weekend coming up where pretty much the entire G&T team will be in one house, so there’ll be plenty coming out of that.

Someone take a video camera!

I’m doing it this way to specifically annoy you, trossinge.

lol.

Another great Dwarfcast guys!!

So the consensus is, people like to hear us arguing?

In that case, maybe we should do a special non-Dwarf recording of me, Ian and Cappsy arguing about Revelation of the Daleks…

That would just turn into a slagging off of Colin Baker (despite Revelation being his best episodes by all accounts).

> That would just turn into a slagging off of Colin Baker (despite Revelation being his best episodes by all accounts).

Well said.

> That would just turn into a slagging off of Colin Baker (despite Revelation being his best episodes by all accounts).

Except we all really like Colin Baker. It’s just Revelation I hate, but he, without fail, puts in a great performance in all his stories.

> That would just turn into a slagging off of Colin Baker (despite Revelation being his best episodes by all accounts).

Well said.

YOU’VE GOT THE SAME IP ADDRESS.

But you’re right about Revelation. You can see on which sides of the debate - I say debate, I mean fight - Cappsy and I fall; Ian is, regrettably, on the other side. The WRONG side.

All in all Revelation comes second only to Genesis as Top Dalek Episode Evur.

I was with you up until this point - but I think it’s comprehensively beaten by a fair number of others. Chief among them Remembrance, which is stonking.

Also, with the (notable) exception of the daft-sounding woman from Upstairs Downstairs, Revelation has one of the best support casts.

> Also, with the (notable) exception of the daft-sounding woman from Upstairs Downstairs, Revelation has one of the best support casts.

But Alexi Sayle is really, REALLY, fucking rubbish in this. Really.

I also love Alexei’s performance in Revelation. It’s possibly the oddest performance I’ve ever seen in Who, which I think puts a lot of people off - but if you can get past that, there’s a lot to enjoy.

But Jesus, Jenny Tomasin’s performance is fucking dreadful. A wonderful serial, that she manages to drag down every time she’s on-screen. And the fact she’s acting opposite the fantastic Clive Swift a lot of the time makes it even worse.

Exactly. She comes close to ruining it, but when you’ve got Clive Swift, Alexei Sayle and William fucking Gaunt around, it’s salvagable.

I don’t think it’s perfect, by any means. But I think it’s the best Baker C story by miles, it farts all over Davison’s Resurrection, and is all in all an intriguing and well played-out twist on the usual Dalek stories. In fact, it’s not even really a Dalek story at all - it’s a Davros story. And because it’s a Davros story (rather than a Dalek story that has Davros messing it up) it’s perhaps the only post-Genesis appearance of his that isn’t hokey and embarrassing.

> Could you be more specific?

Well, it’s just what John said, really, it’s very odd… it just feels off-key and grating to me, and above all intensel annoying and stupid. I sound like a twat when I say that, but he just really pisses me off when he’s on screen.

Still, Peri’s tits, eh?

At least some effort seems to have been put into Revelation (perhaps Graeme Harper had something to do with that), unlike Resurrection, although apart from stuff like that you can’t really compare it with Resurrection as they’re so different. Alexei Sayle being in it will always take me out of the episode though, it just makes me think of The Young Ones and the Comic Strip stuff and just ’80s comedy in general. I suppose it’s one of those appearances. Much like Peter Kay’s role in ‘Love & Monsters’.

MUST… RESIST… TO TALK… ABOUT… DOCTOR WHO!

Oh bugger it.

Mentioning Dr Who to me is like going up to an annoying nerd at a party and going “what do you want to talk about?” Three hours later, I’ll still be dissecting An Unearthly Child, and four years later will get on to Survival.

All I’m going to say on this subject is this: Colin Baker is an extremely good Doctor that got badly let down, his costume is a major handicap but it slightly grows on you, Revelation of the Daleks is by far and away the best Sixth Doctor TV story, yes Remembrance of the Daleks is fab, Resurrection of the Daleks is FUCKING TERRIBLE and the new series is very good.

My vote (if we’re voting :) ) would be to not necessarily put up commentaries in series and or episode order. I don’t see the need for a linear approach, particularly since you aren’t recording them in order. But, instead of totally random, how about in thematic groupings, or by character focus even— Kryten, then Camille, then DNA, then Krytie TV, for example?

You wouldn’t want to be SPOILED now, would you?

More seriously, it helps keep the site reguarly updated if we stick them up when there’s nothing else going on. Also, it gives us chance to review them with a bit of hindsight before sticking them up. I wouldn’t be surprised if we rerecord some of them.

Exactly. Plus, despite what a few of you want, I can hardly imagine most of the G&T users really appreciating a massive DUMP (heh, dump) of Casts thrust onto their lap. This way is far more digestible for the modern day G&T reader on the move, who wants both dryness AND protection.

Or something.

So, to clarify - they’re not interesting enough to hang around for, they’re mostly tedious, and we demand them all immediately. :-)

It generates plenty of internal contradiction - people are calling the DwarfCasts “tedious” and yet at the same time saying that we should put them all up at once. Personally, I think Andrew’s bang on.

I mean, if they’re tedious, then surely it doesn’t matter whether we put them all up or not, because you’re not going to be that bothered about hearing them? And if you’re desperate to hear them all at once, you can’t think they’re that tedious. See what we mean?

Once we get the feed working properly, how do you think people subscribing to it think when they suddently get 10 DwarfCasts flagged to download? It makes no fucking sense.

The whole point of a PodCast is to release content at a near constant rate. I agree we’re sometimes a little late with them, but it makes no sense at all to release them all in one block. Ya bastids.

Well, we recorded an extended Tikka to Ride one last night, but I’m not sure if that one’ll be going up next as there’s editing to be done on it.

Remember, of course, that not all the DwarfCasts will be - nor indeed have they been - episode commentaries. We’ve got a few other ideas in the pipeline as well…

> but don’t justify your position by rewriting his argument into something nonsensical.

Hmm, clearly the smiley face is no longer the international indicator of a ‘joke’. I must have missed a memo.

> we recorded an extended Tikka to Ride one last night

Xtended and Remastered, or just Xtended?

Xtended and Remastered.

> Xtended and Remastered.

Splendid!

But by “extended”, I also mean “we didn’t just stop talking once the episode ended”. Hence why it needs some editing, because I don’t think anyone’s going to listen to an hour and a half-long Cast…

But by “extended”

… he means his cock!

> Somebody had to show that the two of you had misread Sandles

*sigh* No, we didn’t. It’s possible to understand his points, disagree AND see certain inherent tonal contradictions. Which there were. Perhaps ‘Mark’ hasn’t weighed in again because he has a sense of humour?

Still, if you want to get tedious about it:

I SAID: they’re not interesting enough to hang around for

MARK SAID: It’s not like they’re all so extraordinary they’re worth waiting three weeks for

I SAID: they’re mostly tedious

MARK SAID: Personally, I’m more in the “preferring VII-VIII where you don’t all agree” camp, and find the others quite tedious. (‘The others’ would come to a total of 36 episodes, series I to VI. VII-VIII episodes total 16 epsiodes. Thus ‘mostly’ indicates a majority.)

I SAID: and we demand them all immediately.

MARK SAID: How about just posting all the ones that have already been recorded? After all, why wait?

But hey, you can prove anything with facts. :-)

> Last one was 14 days ago so it can’t be long to wait now…

Yeah, next one will be tomorrow. Ironically, whenever most of the G&T crew gather for a weekend, absolutely fuck all gets done.

The Tikka commentary features Seb, John, Tanya and me. It really gets very long winded, so no doubt you’ll all hate it.

> But hey, you can prove anything with facts. :-)

I love you forever.

Meltdown tonight, by the way. Tikka should be up next weekend.

THAT IS ALL.

Well done Queries, you win.

Was Hitler ‘just trying to be funny’.

Wow, I really misunderstood that guy…

The problem with Hitler is he was ahead of his time, by about sixty years. If he’d have done it today, he would have made millions from selling little dolls of himself, and been allowed to write an episode of The Simpsons.

I may watch Revelation of the Daleks this Saturday, as there’s no new episode showing. I may watch it with the new effects as well, as I’ve not seen it with those yet.

Anyone else watching a classic ep this weekend to make up for the CRUSHING DISAPPOINTMENT?

I’ve recently bought City of Death, so I’ll likely foist that on my household on Sunday. It really is a fucking, FUCKING brilliant story.

Fantastic! I love CoD. I’ve only got the video, but I desperately want the DVD. TEH RHUSHES.

I’ve also got the The Space Museum here on VHS, which I haven’t watched yet…

I’m strangely confused. Why has a conversation about Doctor Who suddenly started here?

Oh, I just mentioned Revelation here, because of the discussion further up from a while ago…

Well, in the end I watched The Space Museum instead.

It’s… pffft. Not bad. Not great. Nowhere near as good as The Aztecs, but rather better than sitting through the last three episode of An Unearthly Child. At least it was only four episodes.

I watched The Silurians and Megalos and a recreation of
episode 1 of the power of the daleks.

Megalos had a bit a white hole style time loop thing going on.